Discussion in 'Anything' started by lemmy, Aug 6, 2009.
Dutil (a denim shop in Vancouver and Toronto) is doing collab with Naked and Famous tomorrow - custom made N&Fs. Definitely on my wish list!
Funny that you mentioned Dior as I am planning to get a Dior Homme 19cm Made In Italy if my PayPal gets updated or something.
why not getting the Made in Japan as everybody says those are theb etter ones?
Yeah, I know, that's why I got both of them.
(I was actually going to do a purchase with iwannudies during 2009 for the free shipping as I wanted the Dior Homme 19cm Silver Selvage but no size 28 for me. I remembered telling him "why settle for second best when what you want is actually the best" when he asked if I would consider a second model. I hope he's not angry that I bought the two pairs of made in Japan without him.)
I am also getting another Terry Dry Orange Selvage Jacket and two The Flat Head bracelets now that the top up of my PayPal is successful.
Coming Soon: The Flat Head SE05BSP, after several failed tries to get an F310 that fits right.
My "dream denim" would be a BSP with with Frontier series back pocket and arcs in 16 oz. 3XXX denim, but I doubt that's ever going to happen.
What sort of fit are you looking for, Kmart? Are the Finns too tight or too loose for you? Of course I'm totally biased, but I bet you'd enjoy something like Flat Head 3001s a lot more than APC (disclaimer: I don't like how APCs fade). But if you're freakishly tall like me, that limits your options a bit.
Also, what's the deal with Dior Homme jeans? I've never seen 19cm jeans or whatever for sale online anywhere, and what few Dior jeans I see, they all cost about $500-700, much more than even really expensive Japanese brands. I would have assumed based on the name that they were a "fashion" brand like Louis Vuitton or Dolce & Gabbana.
ell...Diors 19cm cut is a very nice slim fit (APC was inspired by it IIRC) and I've seen some nice fits. Fading potential is sub to the most Japanese brands we favor but Dior wearers don't wear them for the fades I assume.
That's the one:
38,000 yen?! You can get just about anything from Flat Head or Samurai for around 25,000. Maybe it's a better deal outside of Japan. It is a nice fit, but it seems like plenty of other brands and collabs like Self Edge and Blue In Green get the same look for less.
On a sorta related note, a lot of the foreign shops give crazy markups on Japanese stuff. The yen is very strong right now, which doesn't help, but if you compare Iron Heart's Japanese and foreign prices, for example, there's a huge difference. I'm very fortunate to be living in Japan and getting paid in yen, otherwise I would not be able to buy most of the nice clothes I have.
mhh..seems it auto-converts the currency...I see a price tag of 273€ wich is 28,000 Yen
It says "import fees and shipping included," maybe that's why it's more in Japan? Sometimes stuff just gets randomly marked up in Japan. Red Wings, for example, should cost way less in Japan but they don't.
Customs and shipping are certainly contributing, but the mark-up is probably the biggest portion here...
Not sure if the shops are trying to cover their risk or trying to make more profit where they can I order to balance off items where they can't. A lot of the prices are set through competition and/or are actually "suggested" retail prices of the brands/distributors/agents.
Wish list would be a custom Japanese pair with every detail (rare denim) , hardware, style etc brought together with my own custom jeans button added in made from high oz top denim - something unique that I could wear until it went to denim heaven.
The next one on my wish list is S5000VX 24oz!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. just wonder: does it have scientific different 24oz and say 17oz S5000VX?
Id love to answer but can't find 24oz.... The heavier the better(although 32oz by Naked and Famous does sound a bit difficult to wear to say the least,.... And definitely not skinny!!!
17oz and 24oz refer to the weight of one yard fabric. Not so "sciency". one yard of something without specifying the width is pretty useless. altough I think standard it's between 36-44" or something correct me if I'm wrong. I guess a science answer (given that one yard fabric indeed is one square yard) would be Xoz=Wy^2 or something. also 24>17.
to Legoland: yeah! without specifying the width is not very helpful. I would just assume they have the same width and of course the same length. then the weight will be 1:1 ratio to the density of the denim.
24 oz post soak will be 26oz? can't wait to get one. hope don't mess it up on soaking like what i did.
I am quite certain those japanese denim makers have a standard width, I am not to familiar with the textile industry but I would be suprised if they would not. If they can take liberties with width the wight system would be useless. And it's not.
Not sure about the numbers but; denim weight per yard would indeed increase after soak, total weight of garment constant (accually a negliable net loss of weight due to loss of starch and a loose indigo (still talking science can't just make numbers up ) . Messing up soaking would be like messing up taking a bath, there really is'nt much to it. Get the whole thing wet and really warm. job done!
I think the standard width on the older looms is 39" loomstate.
Though I have seen spec. sheets where the width is 60" but the weight was calculated in a different method!?
I think IIIrd mentioned a couple of different methods once.
I think the net loss of weight due to loss of starch and loss indigo won't matter, because limit goes to zero (the weight of indigo/the weight of jeans is like 1/infinity). but the denim would increase its density. so after soak. each yard of denim would weight more.
oh, what I mean messed up the soak is the jeans not shrink enough. I already make it very hot (i actually used the hottest water from the bathtub and add boiling hot water in it every 30 mins, and keep the jeans in the water for 2 hours. I think i just size it up too much?
It is like after take a shower and still smell like sh*t, this is what i mean by messed up the soak process.
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