Hey, This is my first time posting, so yeah..straight to the point! I am looking to buy a pair of thin finn black ring, but don't know about the sizing and stretch. I already have a pair of thin finn org. twill, and those are in 29/32. The fit is really nice, but I would like it a bit tighter around the legs for my next pair. What I'm wondering is if I would be able to get the black rings in a 28 waist. Would it be much tighter than the twills? The twills are only 2% elastane, whereas the black rings are 3%, so I would assume that extra 1% of elastane would compensate for the decrease in size a bit. So would I be able to size down without much hassle? Has anybody had experience with the black rings? And how do they stretch over time? Thanks alot! p.s. If anyone had experience with the black rings, how do they fade?