Well, I just got a couple of pairs of ALD from eBay. A Royal 36x33, and a Frontier 36x35. I must say, I had forgotten how tightly a new pair fit... A sizing note... the Frontier is a bit slimmer through the hips, and bigger in the waist. Odd, I know, but I think I may have to sell the Frontier and see about getting a 34... In any case, both are really nice, and I'll see about some fit pics when I get around to actually wearing them (it's too damn hot here for anything more than trying them on at the moment).