Specifically I'm talking about the Thin Finn black and grey. Firstly I own two pair of selvage - best jeans to ever be produced - thank you Nudie. With the black/greys, I bought them today and they seem way more skin tight and so kind of more teenager which I'm not looking for. I wanted them to stretch and blow out more than the pure cotton ones but they just seem like tights. Does this change and if so how so? Do they stretch out more than selvage? How much Elastane if any do the normal drys have and is it the same deal? Is non pure cotton generally tighter than selvage? Thanks, and I hope to get some good convo going and opinions/answers to each question. Thanks again Nudie for producing great jeans - have no idea what jeans I'd wear otherwise.