Well, maybe nudie should keep all their jeans, than instead of lab create a better line (less prewashes, moar dry!). Like a really high quality denim like samurais or the flat head. And some nice HEAVY denim, not this 11.5 oz used denim. I most certainly would pay $500 for a nice 18 oz+ denim that fades fast, and contains selvage, details, etc.. Personally the labs remind me of TR's and the fact that it is prewashed. Otherwise I will keep on buying their main lineup of jeans. Nonetheless I still love nudie. Even if they make ALL prewashes I don't care I will still be a supporter of Nudie. Once a Nudie, always a Nudie!