Height, Weight, Sizing...

Discussion in 'Even Steven' started by brick_grocer, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. BlueOctoberFan New Member

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    I'd say that Kingpin's definition has nothing to do with Emo as I understand it. Yes, it's a sub-set of punk, so the dress of the average fan may have an edge to it. Everything that he describes, I'd categorize as "goth," though even then it's wrong on several points; mainly, the stereotype of body fat/build.

    I have to agree with the sentiment that people on here seem to be unusually small, by and large, but you have to make allowances for difference of build, and who Nudies are cut for.
     
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    This is correct, i kinda knew gregory would chime in on this though, just judging from the bands he listens to.

    Thank you gregory for setting him in line.
     
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    Kingpin and Gregory, you're both right!! Gregory is right in defining true emo but sadly through journalists being ridiculously lazy and stupid they don't realise that what pop-punk morphed into (fall out boy, panic at the disco, et al) isn't actually 'emo' and so the people that Kingpin describes are actually now collectively known as emo's!! But they should really be known as 'scene kids' cuz as soon as the 'next big thing' comes along they'll all be wearing different clothes while maintaining to look exactly like eachother. Rant over.
     
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    nice bronx avatar!
     
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    haha yes sarge you are right, thats why i said what kingpin said was also right but very wrong on many levels.
     
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    Believe it or not, there are still some ectomorphs left in the US. I'm 5'10 and 120 lbs. I've gained 5 lbs this year, which I'm happy about. I'm 22, so that's pretty much the weight I'll be coasting at over the next 10 years. I try to gain weight and it just doesn't happen.

    My theory is that Americans are so big because they're exposed to all the growth hormones in fast food meat (If you're not aware, all the meat you get from McDonalds/KFC/etc is genetically modified. The chickens/cows are also fed growth hormone which is residual in the protein. Not to mention all the needless antibiotics and other crap their fed. Find some pictures of these animals, they are not healthy looking. You are what you eat.). Plus all the sugar/starches loaded in to everything. Almost 70% of the US is overweight and something like 50+% is obese. There's no way that's simply genetics at work, it has to be the food.

    I grew up poor in the middle of Kentucky. There wasn't a fast food restaurant around for 50 miles. Almost all of my meals were natural grain, fruits and dairy and basically nothing else. Now, I eat about 2000-2500 calories a day and 100 grams of protein. I do 20 pushups, 30 crunches, 30 squats and 20 calf raises every other day and stay healthy and pretty ripped. My resting heart rate is 60. Considering I sit on my ass doing IT work all day, I'd say that's pretty good. :)

    Anyway, I wear a 27x32 or 28x32. That's one of the reasons I like Nudie so much, they actually make jeans that will fit my frame. Buying clothes in the US sucks, the only thing that fits me are XS sizes from American Apparel and the Gap.

    In conclusion, don't hate on the skinny frame. Those %1 of us Americans who are underweight are chastised more than you can imagine, it's getting a little tiring. We're not all puking to maintain the look.
     
  7. Zoink New Member

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    Are you serious? With absolutely no weight training I can do 40 pushups in a row. Now, I can do 50 in a row without breaking a sweat. I can do 100 before collapse now.

    Most thin people have no problem doing pushups.

    Everyone thinks they can kick a skinny guy's ass, you might be surprised. Have you ever seen how big Bruce Lee is in real life? He's tiny. Since everyone thinks they can beat up a skinny guy, skinny people usually have a lot more experience fighting. I've been in plenty of fights, more than anyone I've ever met actually. I've been in over a dozen serious fights (the kind where one of us ended up unconscious or in the hospital). I fought one guy who was easily over 200 lbs, built like an oxe and agile. I was 115 lbs at the time. He came bowling at me--mad as shit--one vicious punch to the throat and he crumbled to the ground and started puking blood. If you don't pin a skinny guy down or get a hold of his arm, he has a serious advantage over you.

    I'm glad my fighting days are over, but I'm pretty confident I could take 90% of the people I walk by everyday. Experience is everything.
     
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    please, at this time I'm wondering, how old are you two? People discriminate over race, now you are going to discriminate over weight?

    to conclude this: skinny people can be strong also, pushups are actually easier for light people then for heavy ass people, pure logic and not everyone can choose his or her own weight, so...

    drop the 'I'm so strong' act and get back to talking about jeans, this is not www.goldiesgym.com...

    alot of people I meet everyday, I could also take in a fight, fact is, I avoid fights, I deal with issues by talking and common sense, even when I'm drunk...
     
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    I absolutely agree with the previous post.

    As stated previously, I'm 22. I don't think there's anything glamorous about fighting. As I stated, I grew up in a poor area, so I had to fight. I now have a good job in the city and live a completely different life.

    My nose is fractured, I'm permanently scarred all over my body, hearing in my left ear is impaired and I blackout occasionally from severe head trauma. Believe me, there's few things I regret, but brawling is certainly one of them.

    I'm just sick of people ragging on skinny people, it's a popular thing to do. I think I made my point fair enough.
     
  10. ides New Member

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    No kidding, it's hard enough to find 29x32 (my actual size) anywhere, I never thought I'd ever find a 28x34.


    I run 6 miles almost every day stopping every mile to do 25 push ups. Skinny guys aren't all weak.
     
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    Haha, look guys, I'm just jokin around. There's nothin wrong with being skinny, shit, all the models are like a buck-twenty. I'm not a big guy by any means, so don't think trying to descriminate. I think this forum's name should be called 'ventilate'.

    I said 'do your first pushup' cause it's just a funny thing to say. It's like when someone opens a beer and it foams all over the place and you say 'i remember my first beer' pretending like you're reminising over the old highschool days. Don't take it seriously, half you guys MAY be able to do more pushups than me, it's no test of how manly you are, just a little jabbing. But for those who just catalogued their weight/height/how strong they are/how many reps of what they can do, get a life. It's just some meaningless banter, and I guess I regret bringing it up. You can't sense sarcasm and humour in print, so I appologize if I've offended anyone.

    One last point. In case you've never noticed, Bruce Lee (I knew he would get brought into this as he's my avatar), although awesome, is an actor. The fact that he would be able to take out 30 people is a complete farse. Same with Tony Jah (sp?). Someone with experience and training is obviously at a seirous advantage. We don't need to argue this further. I'm not going to respond.

    The emo definition is way wrong, I'm well aware of it, it's just a generalization of what's usually seen, again with undetected sarcasm. I know it's got some deeper meanin and blah blah blah, but the guy didnt want the history, he wants to know what to look for. And that is what I simply provided. Although inaccurate, and stereotyped, it's a generalization that usually fits the bill, at least from what I've seen in Vancouver. I think sarge used a better word for what I described.. "scenester" or "scene kid". Again, I'm not going to bother responding to anymore discussion on this... it's a lame topic, so let's get back to the topic at hand.

    On a serious note, I am actually curious as to the fit of the ES. I remember Bilmaga saying that the ES is similar in fit the the RR? Or that the ESOD is basically the RR in organic denim? Is this true? I dont have access to any other cuts to try on aside from the RR and SJ, SJ being too skinny for my liking. Really liek the RR though.
     
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    No, the average joe is closest to a ralf. The ES is like a finn on steroids. Low yoke and tapered leg.
     
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    For me the finn was just a tad bit to tight, so I tried on the ES and they were perfect for me.
     

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