RedWing

[beautiful_FrEaK]

maybe someone should follow RedWing's advice what to use on their stuff...

[davety]

you haven't been using turpentine to clean your boots, have you? :lol:

i should rephrase my earlier post- just because i haven't noticed doesn't necessarily imply that it hasn't been happening. i oil and polish with a black t-shirt, so for all i know heaps of dye might be coming off ;-)

[dr.house]

^ Copper rough & tough is pre treated leather, right? Maybe that's the reason? I didn't see any dye comin off on my boots. Btw, Atzec: what about your resoled RW's?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I used a white cloth and afterwards it was brown. It's not as if the boots were white now :-D

[beautiful_FrEaK]

^ Copper rough & tough is pre treated leather, right? Maybe that's the reason? I didn't see any dye comin off on my boots. Btw, Atzec: what about your resoled RW's?

yeah Stefan, it's pre-treated and oil-tanned. It's not bad I just wanted to know if it's common. Got the 'bott oil' and 'mink oil' today and used the 'boot oil' right away.

[Atzec]

Btw, Atzec: what about your resoled RW's?

still waiting, last time the shoemaker told me that they were on their way, he mixed something u. my boots were not finished, cause he was waiting on the matching heels, as he only had too big and too small ones.
i just called him today and he said, that the heels arrived yesterday, will be applied today and then the boots will be finally shipped on thursday or friday.
i guess good things only come to those who wait...:-?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

it's really long. when did you send them away? 4 weeks ago?

[Atzec]

^3 days before christmas.

[dr.house]

At ridersroom?

[Atzec]

yeah, ridersroom. but the shoemaker doesn´t work for ridersroom, they just recommend him and are in good contact. he has his own buisiness.
if you just want a regular resole he´s supposed to be pretty fast, but i had special wants, you know...

[Redwinglover]

yeah Stefan, it's pre-treated and oil-tanned. It's not bad I just wanted to know if it's common. Got the 'bott oil' and 'mink oil' today and used the 'boot oil' right away.

i have bordered a bottle of red wing oil for my new boots. is this the right stuff ?

mink oil for chrome leather
oil for the softer one ? is that right ?

and how should i apply the oil ?

[dr.house]

^No offence, but you'll find your answers while reading this thread. Any good and right advice will be criticized within a short time, sucks really, so try and have a search on your own.

[denimjunkie]

^Word of advice, if you don't use oil, fat and all that stuff on the first day, the boots will fall apart...

[Opeth]

^^

Thats not true. Many have worn their boots for years without treating them in any way and they have held up fine! (Did not know if you were beeing sarcastic or not)

[fairylicks]

^ I think dj was just ironic... everebody knows, that rw´s or other boots will fall apart, if you don´t use oil etc...

[dr.house]

i have bordered a bottle of red wing oil for my new boots. is this the right stuff ?

mink oil for chrome leather
oil for the softer one ? is that right ?

and how should i apply the oil ?

Helpful answers? ;-)

Try this. (https://www.original-fliegerjacken.de/de/red_wing_katalog.pdf)

[denimjunkie]

Yes I was actually being a bit sarcastic. Sorry bout that....

[beautiful_FrEaK]

i have bordered a bottle of red wing oil for my new boots. is this the right stuff ?

mink oil for chrome leather
oil for the softer one ? is that right ?

and how should i apply the oil ?

asked th same question about how to apply the oil some days ago.
so Stefan is right about the reading.
just use a sponge or cloth

[Opeth]

Thought so :D

[dr.house]

Gimme oil

http://www.tvverdict.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/spongebob.jpg

[denimjunkie]

Max once a year. eh? (This not said only to provoke herr Hause. it is of own belief!)
If youre not walking through a muddy field every day....

[dr.house]

i have bordered a bottle of red wing oil for my new boots. is this the right stuff ?

mink oil for chrome leather
oil for the softer one ? is that right ?

and how should i apply the oil ?

^^^

Max once a year. eh? (This not said only to provoke herr Hause. it is of own belief!)
If youre not walking through a muddy field every day....

He didn't ask how often he should use those products. This just said not only to provoke Herrn Junkie.

[denimjunkie]

Thats right, but it will probably be his next question :-) never mind...

[denimjunkie]

Finally decided that my new 8135 size 9.5 are too big for me.
Anyone interested in a switch that have a half size too small RW size 9?

[ThinFinn]

if i'm looking for the right rw-measurements can i go with THIS (http://www.red-wing-shoes.de/schuh-groessen-tabelle.htm) red wing measurement chart?

seeling the 204s in US8 so i looked at the measurement chart and there it says 28cm.

So I'm asking if 26cm are ok for a size US8 or if any of you got other measurements for me!

An observer complained about it that this couldn't be right...

[davety]

oddly enough, my 8146 feels a little bigger than i anticipated, too- although that's fine with me, they still wear well. it might be that the moc-vibram series is a little big- unless you upsized to snaffle a bargain, in which case shame on you :lol:

[denimjunkie]

Yep. Thats life in the greedy lane ;-)
my 8146 fits super which is sized as my IRs!

[denimjunkie]

if i'm looking for the right rw-measurements can i go with THIS (http://www.red-wing-shoes.de/schuh-groessen-tabelle.htm) red wing measurement chart?

seeling the 204s in US8 so i looked at the measurement chart and there it says 28cm.

So I'm asking if 26cm are ok for a size US8 or if any of you got other measurements for me!

An observer complained about it that this couldn't be right...

Thats size chart is not well guiding, Rafael.
Size RW 9 = 42EU? I wouldnt think so...
I think they just put any chart in there...

[dr.house]

Best way to get your correct size is the insole size (and the knowledge how long your feet really are). If you know that RW's generally runs 1 size bigger (or a half if you use thick or double socks and/or insoles) it shouldn't be that difficult to get a well fitting pair. And don't mix up US and UK sizes...:-? And I agree, the size chart is just a copy from a standard size chart. Again, RW's runs bigger as said before...
Ah, and RW changed their tagged sizes from earlier models. US 9 is now EU 42 (and was 42.5 in earlier models, if I remember right).

[Redwinglover]

Finally decided that my new 8135 size 9.5 are too big for me.
Anyone interested in a switch that have a half size too small RW size 9?

how long are your feet ?

[denimjunkie]

how long are your feet ?

I dont know...I wear a 43 (northern EU spec).

These boots are for a guy who wears 43.5-44.

Take advantage now guys - this is an outgoing model!

[ThinFinn]

Thats size chart is not well guiding, Rafael.
Size RW 9 = 42EU? I wouldnt think so...
I think they just put any chart in there...


Best way to get your correct size is the insole size (and the knowledge how long your feet really are). If you know that RW's generally runs 1 size bigger (or a half if you use thick or double socks and/or insoles) it shouldn't be that difficult to get a well fitting pair. And don't mix up US and UK sizes...:-? And I agree, the size chart is just a copy from a standard size chart. Again, RW's runs bigger as said before...
Ah, and RW changed their tagged sizes from earlier models. US 9 is now EU 42 (and was 42.5 in earlier models, if I remember right).

THX guys but i think you haven't got my question:

i want to know if a red wing in US8 got a insole with 26cm of length and if 26cm is too short or too long for a red wing in US8 ???...

got it? :-) (sry HaGa, but i just can't go without any off them!)

[denimjunkie]

^tricky question since size are never measured in cm. I would have to have a pair of US8 and measure them.
They certainly are size 42, tho. According to your chart it should be 27cm.

[davety]

just pulled the trigger on the 3140 chukkas in oro-iginal. i guess that makes me a member of the 3+ club :mrgreen:
http://a1.zassets.com/images/752/7524883/8521-875403-d.jpg
shoebuy has the BDAY 20% coupon back on, purchase as a member for an extra 10% off- these cost me $165 USD, $33 ship.

[Skip2MyPou]

Nice buy Dave. I've been on the fence with buying a pair of redwings for a while. Used to be the chukka, but now I've moved on to the 1907. I cant decide!

[davety]

^ 1907- is that the copper rough and tough? while i personally wouldn't go predistressed (i'd rather the 875 and beat them up myself :mrgreen:), if you like them shoebuy has plenty of them- http://www.shoebuy.com/red-wing-classic-lifestyle/248683/532959. (http://www.shoebuy.com/red-wing-classic-lifestyle/248683/532959) i don't know how much ship is to canada, but it's free in th US, and you can get 30% off that price right now (and every other week, it seems ;-)) with coupons and members rates.

ship to australia took 6 business days from order placement in the end, i was whining about nothing :lol:

i'm such a coupon-evangelist, i should get comissions for this :roll:
:lol:

[Skip2MyPou]

I like the 1907 because of the toe being less chunky. Are those chukkas the only RWs you own? I'm wondering how to size the 1907.

[davety]

i think the 1907, 875 and all the other moc-toes crepes are the same dimensions? i dunno. if you mean the round-toe, they're even cheaper on shoe-buy, but i just assumed the 875 and 1907 were the same boot in a different leather-style. defintiely less chunky than the chukkas tho, if that's what you meant :-D

anyway, i also own the 9011 cherry gentleman traveller and the 8146 briar vibram moc-toe. i usually wear size UK9/US10 in most shoes (nike, vans, puma, etc, for some international comparison), and i sized down 1 full size for the 9011 and a half size for the 8146. -1 fits ok, but not enough room for hardcore insoles and thick socks (a must for my flatfeet, but also breaking-in comfort); -1/2 is a perfect fit with insoles and worksocks. and honestly, you need to think seriously about some decent inners and socks while breaking these in.

so your vans/nike size -0.5 ;-)

[denimjunkie]

Hey mr 3+, wanna swap your 9011 with my brand new 8135?

[ThinFinn]

rw 2904
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2130/dsc02037b.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3783/dsc02038op.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4489/dsc02040k.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/622/dsc02039x.jpg

what ya think?...79€ from ebay incl.shipping...;-)

they're fitting great without an insole an thick socks.
maybe i'll wear them with a thin insole so they're gonna be more comfortable while wearing...

[dr.house]

Looking nice Rafael, congrats. From the soles you can be sure that they were worn rarely. I always wear a thin insole, more comfy, more hygienic, better for shoes and socks.

[denimjunkie]

Great catch, Rafa! Envy! :evil:
:-)

[beautiful_FrEaK]

looking really good and for that price you can't go wrong

[ThinFinn]

thx alot guys...wil give them all off my love now and i think i'm going to oil them tomorrow on my day off ;-)...

[dr.house]

^ Save a bit of your love for your GF ;-)

[ThinFinn]

Okay i'll do that.
But just as long as my 9014s aren't here yet...:-D...

btw. these 2904 are boots from the older red wing stock whit the "old" measurements where a EU42 was an US9.5.
They fit the same, alsmost even better then the newer ones where a EU42 is a US9...Just perfekt and with an insole they're unbeatable.

At least when it comes to Red Wing's ;-)

[dr.house]

I'm happy for you, Rafael. And the weather is really Red Wing like, so rock 'em!

[ThinFinn]

thx doctor...
had them on to work today.
my boss was freaking out cuz he wants the 875s a long time ago and also he want me to buy such a boot like the one i have now...:-)

[dr.house]

Hehe, that's right. What about your 9014's from the marketplace?

[ThinFinn]

waiting on them since almost 2weeks now :-(

[davety]

Hey mr 3+, wanna swap your 9011 with my brand new 8135?

no :lol:

the moc-toe vibrams are nice enough, but i'm not such a huge fan that i'd need/want two pairs- my 9011 is my flagship boot, and given the recent price hikes, i'd be looking for a long time to replace them at a decent price. i just fitted them with a smaller air-cushion insole and they fit great now after stretching a little.

sorry mate :lol:

[davety]

you wouldn't want my boots right now anyway, i have open tinnea-sores on a couple my toes at the moment :shock:

[denimjunkie]

Just got back from a trip to south France - Collioure. Nice.
No problem, Daniel.
Wtf happened to the cultizim price for the 9011, man? 209>289???

[davety]

yeah, i know- that pretty much brings it into line with everyone else, everywhere else :cry: still worthwhile tho, just hard to swallow when it was so damn cheap for so long.

[ThinFinn]

^i'd say that this is pretty much fvcked up guys...
makes cultizm to be the 2nd choise to buy rw's from...

[davety]

i disagree- cultizm still has the best service around, and the regular prices are still on par with or cheaper than most of the others. the original price on the gt was absurdly low, i'm just glad i got in while the getting was good.

rafael, you can't even buy redwings from cultizm, they don't mail to germany :lol:

[dr.house]

I was always wondering why the 9011 and 9014 was cheaper than the other Beckmans at cultizm...:confused:

[Slowhand]

^ Yes, at a lot of other places, all the GTs are equally priced, and seems to be more expensive than IRs and crepe boots... I'm also very glad to have gotten my 9014s when they were still cheap at Cultizm. ;-) 209 dollar IS ridiculously cheap for a pair of RWs, compared to the prices everywere else (in Europe)

[davety]

^ try getting the 9011 for that price minus 19% VAT, like i did :mrgreen:

fair enough, i reckon the beckman series is worth around $300, anyway- a bargain's a bargain, but you can't expect those lower prices to hang around forever, especially since their later beckman stock was priced at 300 as well.

[offyatree]

^ what are you guys talking about!!?!??!

check this out.....i bought my 875 from them and i have mentioned about this site few times now.

http://www.bakershoe.com/shop-by-brand.cfm/brand/red-wing-heritage-boots/

[davety]

i'm pretty sure they don't mail outside north america, pasko...

EDIT sorry i'm wrong- reading through the site right now....

EDIT-2... 60 buxks is pretty dear for shipping, but it seems to be a flat rate... god damn it, they might just trick me into buying multiple pairs :shock:

deep breath. no more rw for me for a while yet... ;-)

[offyatree]

^ i am soooo sure they ship worldwide. :)

its weird that they no longer sell 875 nor 877.

[davety]

^ yeah they do ship worldwide, sorry- i checked :oops:

and i agree on the 875 and 877- those two are quite difficult to track down at most places i've looked at, at least at low prices. that's a great price on the beckmans too by the way, but for most of the others it's much cheaper to go through shoebuy, especially since they're always running discounts, usually around 30% off the same prices as bakers, with shipping around half of bakers' rates (free in the us).

[offyatree]

^ in conclusion, go get another pair, davety. i know you want it!

[Redwinglover]

I like the 1907 because of the toe being less chunky. Are those chukkas the only RWs you own? I'm wondering how to size the 1907.

have you checked out the 1907 ? according to bakershoe.com they have the last no 45.

[ThinFinn]

rafael, you can't even buy redwings from cultizm, they don't mail to germany :lol:

sad sad story but true...

[Leap]

http://www.davidz.com/products2.cfm/ID/7928/attr1/6331/color/GREY/name/Red-Wing-8-Inch-Boot---Exclusive-at-David-Z/

What do you guys think?

[Skip2MyPou]

have you checked out the 1907 ? according to bakershoe.com they have the last no 45.

What does "no.45" mean?

[iwannudies]

Size maybe?

[m00ba77]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b209/m00ba77/IMGP0009.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b209/m00ba77/IMGP0013-1.jpg

For my boots.

[Redwinglover]

What does "no.45" mean?

its the number from the last.

the gentleman traveler 9011 has a last no 8 like the iron rangers and the round toe models. this last has a smaller toebox, but are a little bit longer than the moc toe models which have the no 23 last.

the "new" model 1907 has a different last. maybe a new one for the new models. has someone compared this with the old moc toe last ?

[the punkrock]

Anyone of you heard about the GREY CHUKKAS ???

this picture shows some RW`s from the upcoming collection...:-o:

http://mynudies.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=100&pictureid=546

[IIIrd Icon]

'tis the only grey suede boots i'll ever consider right now ... unfortunetely, they're very ltd ed.

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr356/brownmetallic/RWxNDGorth.jpg

[Slowhand]

Anyone of you heard about the GREY CHUKKAS ???

this picture shows some RW`s from the upcoming collection...:-o:

http://mynudies.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=100&pictureid=546

I'm quite sure the chukkas in this picture are green and not grey...something like an olive green...

[ThinFinn]

finally the boys are back in town ;-)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/994/dsc02089ss.jpg

[beautiful_FrEaK]

someone posted these already. dunno if there was a link which explains what the pic is showing

[the punkrock]

I´ve got a question about the size: i wear US 9.5/ eur 42.5 D in my 8131, so please tell me which size should i buy the CHUKKAs?????...THANK YUU!:!:

[Slowhand]

^^ Very nice, thinfinn! Hopefully these won't crack in the welt...I'm anxiously checking mine every day...so far no problems...

[dr.house]

Welcome back in the Gentleman Travellers Club :-P...I'm sure they'll last.

[Slowhand]

Speaking of the GTs: How do you guys "repair" small scuffs and scrapes, like the one showing on the boot on the right side of this picture? (from the glare at the toe and up towards the laces, on the inside:
http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac163/PHM81/P2070023.jpg

It's never been an issue with the leather of my 875s, which can be "rubbed" to look like new again, but the leather of the GTs seem more fragile. I tried to just rub them with a sponge that still contained some boot oil, but that didn't fix it completely. I like my Gentleman Travelers to look new and presentable, dammit!:mrgreen:

[offyatree]

^ i have the same scar as yours, slowhand, but i would just ignore it. try rub it off with a clean cloth and little oil maybe?

[Slowhand]

I know, I know...but I can't help it ;-)

[ThinFinn]

^I'd say just live with them.
the ones you can clean away then do it, but with the other ones i'd just live with them...

talking again about dress- & workboots eh :-)

[Atzec]

if you really want to get rid of the scratches i´d suggest black shoe polish (e.g. kiwi black).

[Concret]

the oro one's look a bit smaller than the black ones....hmm weird. Pic angle?

[dr.house]

Yeah, Kiwi rules :p

[davety]

my 9011 got scratched up when i first got them, and it didn't take all that much to do it either. i tried smoothing it out, didn't work, but i don't really care all that much either. it all darkens out in time, although the scratches are still visible- if you're really that worried, go kiwi.

[denimjunkie]

So for the 9011, what kiwi are you going for?

[davety]

So for the 9011, what kiwi are you going for?

hmmmm....


...but i don't really care all that much either....

i really couldn't give a shit about a couple of scuffs, so i won't be bothering with kiwi- i was only relating my experiences with the featherstone leather. there's plenty of options for the 9014 tho, which was the topic at hand, for those that do worry about some scratches. like i said, it all darkens out anyway, so they're hardly hi-vis.

[fairylicks]

scratches are imo signs of wear, and not to avoid. everybody wants their shoes and jeans to look worn. don´t bother about scratches as long as they´re on your boots and not on your cars ...

[davety]

meh, i can take it or leave it with my boots. i'm not going to worry about maintaining them in pristine condition (apart from regular maintenance and conditioning) but i'm not going to fret about them maturing or ageing/evo properly either. i'm just gonna wear them- my main attraction to rw is the quality and integrity of the boots, and i want to still be wearing these in 5-10 years time. that would give me more satisfaction than anything else :-D

[davety]

aha! i was wondering what that was for...

[denimjunkie]

Anyways, on 9011 you could probably use neutral shoe cream...

I understand the fuzz about the GT scratching since all seem to get them as more dressy.

Hey I get nervous when I get some scratches on my IRs but since they have the same oil tanned leather as the 875 it just rubs off in most cases.

[davety]

i was pretty pissed off when my gt scratched itself almost straight away out of the box, because it was highly visible when brand new, but after a little while it all evened out and it's quite subtle now. you can still see it if you look for it, but it's not really immediately noticeable.

i think it's reasonable to be a little concerned about scratches, since they're not cheap shoes by any means, but they're not really that prone to damage. if i had a big-arse scuff that scratched off a stack of surface finish, i'd be pretty anxious, but in my experience most wear is fairly inconspicuous, even if i won't go out of my way to get visible ageing- and that goes for my other RWs too, not just the beckmans. they'll age nicely enough over the years by themselves without me needing to camp it up.

[denimjunkie]

So RW experts, whats the deal with scratches on horween leather? For the better or worse. Im so horny for the 1911 ;-)

[Slowhand]

Hint:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6467/shoecreme.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/shoecreme.jpg/)

Thanks, I'll look for that, or just go for some Kiwi...but all of you are right, a little wear and tear don't hurt...it's just nice to know how to fix a really bad-looking scrape...;-)

[Slowhand]

Hey guys, check out this cool video: http://www.complexvideo.com/Style/Cut-and-Show-Red-Wing-Shoes

[denimjunkie]

Just amazing to see someone sew that fast and that precise and the same time!

[Slowhand]

^ Yeah, you're right. Even tho I know they are "handmade", it still surprises me to see them actually sewn by hand... I mean, who knows how much of the production has to be done by hand, before you're alloved to use the "handmade"-stamp...?

[dr.house]

^Too bad, I couldn't play the video for some reason...:confused:

[denimjunkie]

^Vista? :-)

[Slowhand]

@ House: How about this link then: http://www.complex.com/blogs/2010/02/11/cut-show-inside-red-wing-shoes-video/

Same?

[dr.house]

Yeah, unfortunately. Maybe I need a flash update...

[fairylicks]

cool video. I am excited about, how the process in the chinese factories will look like...

[Slowhand]

^ No, please, fairylicks, please don't break the illusion ;-)

[davety]

probably not all that different. chinese factory conditions tend to get a bad rep from people who have never worked in factories, but i assure you that conditions in the few factories that are left in the west aren't all that rosy, either. i'd be quite certain that red wing's 'happy factory' videos wouldn't be telling the full story.

[Acetate]

At least the workers there are full grown men and women. Interesting video indeed!

[Slowhand]

Do you guys oil the middle (leather) part of the sole of your GT-style boots? Sorry if it's a stupid question - I'm used to crepe soles or sneakers ;-)

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac163/PHM81/GT31.jpg

[fairylicks]

since the middle part is made of leather too, I ´d say, go for it. You can´t do anything wrong ,oiling your sole ;-)

[lemmy]

yeah and don't forget the laces..
no you don't have to oil your sole, why the hell you guys wanna oil everything?

[Slowhand]

^ Well, I guess it's just a matter of wanting to take good care of your "investment". I mean, what's the point in buying boots that are supposed to last 20-30 years, if you kill them in a winter, coz you didn't know how to take care of them. ;-)
The soles are also very much in contact with snow and rain, and I could just imagine bad things happening if it would get completely dry and start cracking... But if it's not necessary, I guess I shouldn't worry

[fairylicks]

hey dude. those are your redwings... If you feel like you should oil the sole, then oil it. As said before, it is made of leather and oiling won´t hurt. i it really necessary??? Hm, you have to decide...

[lemmy]

I mean, what's the point in buying boots that are supposed to last 20-30 years, if you kill them in a winter, coz you didn't know how to take care of them. ;-)


man those will last you a lifetime even if you don't oil them at all. don't worry about that.
and if you feel like oiling the sole as well, go ahead. just be careful not to slip and brake a leg ;-)

[Slowhand]

^ 2nd!

[lemmy]

There seems to be a trend that work boots should be
abused and worn in any weather conditions like in rain and
snow



I don't see the trend. Work boots are tough enough to be worn in every condition cause that's the purpose they were made for. On the other side, I think there is the trend to 'baby' them too much.

[fairylicks]

so, everything is cleared... thx for the advice.

[fairylicks]

Imo there´s a big difference between babying something and taking care of high priced goods... I ,as a poor student, take care of my 200€ boots :-)

[davety]

i think a lot of people seem to have a distorted concept of how people like tradesmen take care of their workboots. every bricklayer or carpenter i've ever known has sworn by regular conditioning and waterproofing, even on much cheaper boots than red wing, and in the australian army at least it's mandatory for boots to be kept condtioned so frequently that the last treatment's shine should always be visible. there's no harm in 'babying' a boot, it's just commonsense to want to protect your boots and get the most life out of them.

[lemmy]

I know, I know
The fact is that I see more and more brand new super-oiled boots than used ones, here. If you read this thread, one post every three is about how to oil, which oil, where to get it from, when, how much...(I also created a 'oil thread' for the 'oil perverts' to keep this one clean, but it didn't work! lol).
I've been taking care of my boots since I got my first pair of trickers more than 10 years ago and I think I know what I'm talking about. But this oil thing IS a trend and a ****ing boring one too. So, please if you wanna go ahead with the discussion, do it in the dedicated thread! Pleease!

[dr.house]

A pleasure to read buddies ;-)

I don't know why ppl make a problem outa this. RW's (for example) got their work boots and their heritage boots. I'm sure their heritage line is made for dicks like me who wear their GT's in usual urban spheres where nothing really bad can happen to their boots :p. And more than this, GT's aren't made for real "hard" working imo. I treat my 875's (which is more or less a "real" workboot) pretty different and wear them on "harder" locations e.g.
RW is calling their Beckmans "Dress Boots", and that's what they are imo. And I think it's a stylish and good way to keep Dress Boots shiny and in a good condition, nevertheless they'll age beautifully like all leather goods do. And if someone also takes more care of his 875's too- okay. Live and let live.

[Slowhand]

@Slowhand

I'm sure that you don't oil your GTs like everyday or fortnightly..... Or do you? ;-)


No, not that often ;-)



It says "Apply small amount of mink oil on the leather part
in order to prevent damages from moisture and make the sole last longer")



Great! Thanks, Naoto!....see, I wasn't completely stupid :mrgreen:



...(I also created a 'oil thread' for the 'oil perverts' to keep this one clean, but it didn't work! lol). So, please if you wanna go ahead with the discussion, do it in the dedicated thread! Pleease!

I'm sorry, I totally forgot about that thread...of course that's were my question belonged - my bad! :oops:

Now, back on topic:

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac163/PHM81/P2120014.jpg

[Slowhand]

^To be fair, I think it was announced some pages back. But again, it was my mistake not to ask the question there....but I appreciate the answers none the less ;-)

[fairylicks]

dayum. my 875 are usless on snow or icy ground. they are so fvckin slippery... not the perfect winter boot...

[Slowhand]

^ You're right - dangerous as hell! I'm not too crazy about wearing the GTs in salty snow , (even though the sole of those are better in icy ground than the 875s), so my Salomon Gore Tex boots has seen a lot of action this winter. Not too pretty, but I stay on my feet, and the feet stay dry ;-)

[davety]

the vibram soles on my 8146 look like they'd handle snow pretty well- pity they'll probably never see snow here :lol:

[dr.house]

None of them (875/GT) are good on snow...:(

[denimjunkie]

the vibram soles on my 8146 look like they'd handle snow pretty well- pity they'll probably never see snow here :lol:

Here neither :confused:

[fairylicks]

@ davety: you can use your sole perfectly to get rid of funnelweb spiders for example :-)

[davety]

big boots are where they hide :P

funnelwebs need more of a blowtorch approach than a stomping approach.

[fairylicks]

damnit. those basterds can be lethal can´t they? friend of mine told me some stories about walking tired through australian "jungle"missing the web and walking right into it... uhhh. Wouldn´t be much fun for me, if I would have to watch out after lethal australian creatures everywhere...

[Atzec]

as lemmy asked for it, here are some pics of his former chukka boots.
i´ve worn them around 3 times per week since i got them from him end of november.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05906.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05907.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05908.jpg

[ThinFinn]

^noice...

[denimjunkie]

Yummie!

[M!ch]

^^ i can only agree with the previous posters!

[Slowhand]

Very nice, Atzec! I've been eyeing those for a while...in dark brown though...too many oro-iginal already :-)

@ Thinfinn - looks like Atzec's chukkas might be having the same problem as your old 9014s... I detect a slight gap between the crepe and the leather, much like I've experienced on my 875s... nothing a little glue can't handle ;-) But I must admit I'm still a bit anxious whether that will happen to my 9014 as quick as it did to yours... so far, still no problem :roll:

[Atzec]

^i have it on my 8138s as well. as long as they´re waterproof i don´t really care.

[ThinFinn]

^i have it on my 8138s as well. as long as they´re waterproof i don´t really care.

and i have it on my 2904s again.
but i said to me that i wont care this time and like matthias said, as long as they are water proof i don't care anymore.

if it gets to big i'll bring them to my shoe maker to glue them again. so this time i just don't give a fvck ;-)
like the boys from the older days wearing their rw's and not giving a fvck...!

[Slowhand]

so this time i just don't give a fvck ;-)
like the boys from the older days wearing their rw's and not giving a fvck...!
:mrgreen: Exactly!

I found this picture a while back (on ebay, I think) Clearly it shows how a well worn pair of RWs might end up looking...I think I would glue that gap, though...

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac163/PHM81/redwingsvintage2.jpg

[ThinFinn]

^well these are some really great rw's and imo the gap isn't that big at all. but glue would help to prevent a bigger gap i think!

[lemmy]

**** you boots paranoids!..

[denimjunkie]

I think I would glue that too.
But not oil it ;-)

[Mr HaGa]

**** you boots paranoids!..

I love you Lemmy.

[davety]

chukkas arrived today...
http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/davety/Image0485.jpghttp://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/davety/Image0485.jpghttp://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/davety/Image0487.jpg
a friend also reminded me today what 'red wings' means in australian biker slang :roll: embarrassing that i'd never thought of that :oops:

[Redwinglover]

nice shoes, how do they fit ?

[denimjunkie]

I like the chukkas more each day. Coolness.

[Slowhand]

Very cool! I need a pair of those... ;-) Seem more "spring"-like than 875s...

[davety]

the fit on the chukkas seem almost tts, they're not quite as loose as the 8146 (although my feet may have been swollen from work, because the right felt tighter than the left :confused:). and yes, they are very nice, they fit very comfortably and they're reasonably light, without being lightweight, plus the crepe sole is as comfy as hell, too.

tbh i think these might be my favourites, they've got such a lovely colour already after just a little wear- someone else asked whether they'd been oiled already, but those photos were taken after about 20 minutes worth of wear.

the comfort factor shouldn't be taken as me saying these don't need breaking in, because they do. i find it ironic that every boot seems to have its own particular places where they hurt at first, and since i'm breaking in three pairs of boots at the moment (8146, these and some new boots at work), plus trying to get some wear in on some older ones at the same time, my feet are ripped to shreds all over, with each boot unleashing pain on a different part of my foot :roll:

[Redwinglover]

poor boy :D since two weeks i have a new pair 9111 and they are very comfy too, and a lightwight compared to the one with the rugged slug sole.
but i need a pair for the warmer spring and sommer time, i will give them a try. thanks for your help.

one question regarding the 8146, do they need much breakin and do they have the "hard" insole or the "soft" one ?

[denimjunkie]

Just a personal opinion, I might change the shoelaces to something like this on the chukkas:

http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!Bl-Vpeg!mk~$(KGrHqYH-CQEtcklHQz,BLd4fr7EZw~~_3.JPG

[Redwinglover]

this are vintage red wing 595 - very nice.

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/ajoyner3/P1020966.JPG

[davety]

one question regarding the 8146, do they need much breakin and do they have the "hard" insole or the "soft" one ?

you might get a better answer on this one from denimjunkie than from me, mine only arrived 2 weeks ago and because i have to wear special boots at work they haven't gotten a great deal of wear yet- i'm generally either at work or the beach at the moment, so there's not much boot action to be had. i've given them a run about 4-5 times, and they do seem to need some breaking in, especially around the heels, but they're not as bad as the 9011s were.
the vibram sole is harder than the crepe sole, but again a bit more forgiving than the beckmans- the leather is also quite thick and stiff too, compared to the others. as for the innersoles, as far as i can see all my RWs have the same innersole- a moot point for me, since i use thick bata latex inners as well in all three.
the chukkas have been the easiest of the lot thus far, but even they're dishing out the pain- i should probably hold off any further verdict until they've all had their day in the sun :-D

@ dj- re: laces- yeah, i'm not a fan of all these brown and yellow laces either. i'll do something about it i'm sure, just too lazy to do it just yet :-D

[denimjunkie]

@redwinglover:
the 8146 is like any other RW boot to me. Soft like a glove.

[davety]

i forgot about your superhuman feet, dj :P

[denimjunkie]

Well, I dont stand all day in a pair of boots and I walk about 100m every day. Thats how superman I am :oops:

[lemmy]

I walk 100m every 5 minutes
edit-when I 'don't walk'

[offyatree]

DJ, 100m everyday? that's very little. you must drive everywhere in your boots huh?

redwinglover, just pust some dr.scholls insoles. you'll be able to walk longer....

[denimjunkie]

Yeah, to little.
I guess Im just an average urban commuter with a worker-cowboy-biker-boot-rocker-badass wish.

[Slowhand]

Über-cool picture from my favorite blog (redwing1905.blogspot.com):
http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac163/PHM81/p1010009.jpg

[Redwinglover]

@davety
thanks for your help, next winter i will buy a pair with rugged sole. but before i have to use my 9111 and maybe some chukkas.

[davety]

^ what do you mean by 'rugged' sole, btw? do you mean the vibram?

i think my 8146 are going to be relegated to adventure-wear (hiking, travelling etc) once i've broken them in- i just don't find them versatile enough to really be a frequent-wear boot, but they'd kick arse for hiking and stuff.

i could imagine they'd be good in the snow too, but there ain't much of that around here ;-)

[denimjunkie]

@slowhand, I think the one in the middle of the picture must be oro-russet color. Init it sooo cool after breakin in?

[Slowhand]

@slowhand, I think the one in the middle of the picture must be oro-russet color. Init it sooo cool after breakin in?

Yeah, I think you're right about the color. They look absolutely amazing! I can't really justify getting another pair of RWs, but man would I like a pair in that color! When I got the 875s the oro-iginal was the only color I even considered, but the reddish ones are definitly growing on me, and that picture sure doesn't make it any easier to settle with the ones I've got! :roll:

[Redwinglover]

@davety
yes i mean the one with the black vibram sole. the winter in germany was this year very long with much snow. the wrong weather for my
iron rangers, and the white crepe sole from the 9111 haven´t enough crip, so i decided to order another pair with the black vibram sole, but onlyredwings
havent my size anymore. so i have to wait till next winter, maybe i will find a bargain on ebay.

[denimjunkie]

:roll: What size do you wear?

[Redwinglover]

uk9,5.

i have found a very interesting link, 33 ways to tie your laces.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2qukcbm.jpg

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/lacingmethods.htm

[denimjunkie]

Yeah, I think I posted that one a while back :-) Its really good!

@RWL, you wanna buy a pair of 8135? Moc-toe, vibram, oro-russet color! YUMMIE.
Used only twice, very mint condition!

http://mynudies.com/gallery/files/7/2/5/dsc_0056.jpg

Here lacing is inverse criss-cross.

[Redwinglover]

nice boots, but not my color. i am searching for the briat oil or black color.

[Atzec]

finally i got my rw-boots back. to make up for the delay i received some nice gifts and my next reapir will be free.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05909.jpg

before:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/rw9563-1.jpg

after:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05911.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05912.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s94/Atze747/DSC05915.jpg

i actually wanted the "real" gt-style sole at first, but we came to the conclusion, that this would be better and more comfortable. i´m glad, that walking in these doesn´t feel like walking on plastic-soles anymore. actually it feels really good now.

[offyatree]

^ why do we all want to look like an american trucker or construction worker? haha we pay so much on these boots to look like them.

[dr.house]

Nice work Matthias and nice gifts. Congrats!

[denimjunkie]

Yep, they look real good. What model is it?

[Mr HaGa]

^Seriously? He's answered that question a 1000 times already.

[denimjunkie]

If thats true please dont answer but anyways I think its up to himself to answer it or not.

[Mr HaGa]

Okay, denimjunkie.

[Atzec]

it´s ok. i bought them used on ebay. model nr. is 956.

more info/pics:
http://www.lubys-tokyo.com/RW956-7HD_.html

[denimjunkie]

Thanks, Atzec!
Thats a very original model!

[BlueOctoberFan]

Not sure if anyone cares, but I just saw Sean White (2x Olympic snowboarder from USA) wearing what looked like GTs while interviewed by Bob Costas (sports reporter).

[davety]

@ redwinglover- the 8146 is in plentiful supply at shoebuy.com, and they're very cheap if you use a) 10% membership discount and b) the regular 20% off coupons- they literally run one at least every week without fail. i don't know how much ship would be to germany, but it's only $35 to australia and only takes about 4-5 business days. mine cost less than US $200 all up.

[Skip2MyPou]

Has anyone dealt with the eBay seller, "Are-Kind"?

[davety]

i've spoken to them. i was a little iffy on them, but i can't remember why. are they the ones who sell factory seconds? or the general retailer? i think they're just a general retailer and the shipping to australia put me off- what model are you looking at?

[davety]

just double-checked, they're the legit one, imo. i'd still rather deal with baker's or shoebuy if i were in canada tho. shoebuy doesn't have the best range, but whatever prices you see are frequently 30% off with coupons, are-kind seem like fairly standard pricing.

[Skip2MyPou]

I was looking at the rw 1907s. I saw a neg feedback saying that he was sold a factory second. Aren't his prices the same as for a brand new pair? I'm looking on eBay because I'm looking for a small size that I can't find elsewhere.

[Skip2MyPou]

Anyone have any pics of any red wing boot in briar oil slick? I'd like to have a better idea of the color.

[denimjunkie]

Yes I do in my gallery.
(im on the phone now so i cant embed tge image)

[Skip2MyPou]

Thanks for the pics!

[Atzec]

Anyone have any pics of any red wing boot in briar oil slick? I'd like to have a better idea of the color.

-> http://mynudies.com/forums/showpost.php?p=249171&postcount=1174

[Skip2MyPou]

Great, exactly what I needed! Thanks atzec.

[davety]

what size are you looking for, catch?

[Skip2MyPou]

^ Were you asking me about what size I was looking for, not catch?

[davety]

ah shit, sorry dude, yes i was. i didn't even realise, sorry, for some reason i get you two mixed up sometimes- must be the multi-word handles :oops:

[Skip2MyPou]

Well, from what Ive gathered, I would need a size 6.5 to maybe be able to wear an insole with. I tried on a size 7 and had a good inch or so of room from my toes to the end of the boot, but the boot felt pretty narrow around the toe area. So... I'd probably need a 6.5E? I could probably even fit into a size 6 if i decided on not wearing insoles. Yeah, yeah... I'm a small person with small feet.. Such a hassle to find stuff in my size sometimes!

For your reference, I wear 6 in clarks desert boots, and 7 in vans.

[davety]

fair enough. well, they're out there, RW starts at US4 in mens, but i don't know if i know of any retailers who carry them. i'd almost suggest rakuten, but you'd be paying through the nose :P

[denimjunkie]

Some eye-candy for the briar-slick lovers:

http://mynudies.com/gallery/files/7/2/5/img_434242_7575004_0.jpg

[Eirick]

Picked up some virgin RW iron rangers.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae181/erikholleman/DSCF0062.jpg

Glad i didn't order them online, i would definitely got the wrong size (usually im a US9.5, these are US8!)

Got some nice plans for them (including climbing fences, roofs and ladders in a day's work)

[ThinFinn]

finally i got my rw-boots back. to make up for the delay i received some nice gifts and my next reapir will be free.

///

before: ///

after: ///

i actually wanted the "real" gt-style sole at first, but we came to the conclusion, that this would be better and more comfortable. i´m glad, that walking in these doesn´t feel like walking on plastic-soles anymore. actually it feels really good now.


Nice work Matthias and nice gifts. Congrats!
^2nded mate...
What are the two "Effekt" things on the bottom of the pic matt?...

[Atzec]

It´s "Effekt Ledergel". the owner of ridersroom and the shoemaker seem to be huge fans of it. they also already used it on my boots and they feel amazing.

[ThinFinn]

thx for info!...

[Redwinglover]

what do you think about that one ?

http://www.artschoolvets.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Red-Wing-Autumn-2010-chukka-8-artschoolvets.jpg

[dr.house]

^Super. I love them. Where to get???

[ThinFinn]

looking great imo...are these the newer chukka model?...

[dr.house]

Yeah, let us know!

[Redwinglover]

they are from the autum/winter collection 2009.
more infos are available on
http://www.redwingshoe-europe.com/footwear.aspx

i could only find them in stock from a german online store for 199 € ! (http://www.red-wing-shoes.de/redwing-3144-chukka.htm)

another question to the chukkas which has been posted some time ago. have they a leather lining ?

[m00ba77]

I have a question:

When I've been walking around I've caught a few scrapes/scuffs on my beckmans (curbs, corners of cabinets, gofing around and catching them on something or other).

I oiled them tonight because they looked like they might need it since I've been wearing them and it's been wet/snowy around here. The scuffs/scrapes turned a significantly darker colour. Is this permanent or will this dissipate once the oil soaks in overnight?

[Redwinglover]

it will take 2 days before the oil has been dried, after that period you want see a big difference as before. this experience i have made
with my 9111.

[davety]

my chukkas have no leather lining, if that was a general question about the chukkas. i think those black suede chukkas are a very limited edition, so they may be a little difficult to find...

[Redwinglover]

thank you.

for your information: i have spoken with the red wing shop in germany, the chukkas have been updated last year. the "old" one have a leather lining, the new one has none.
so i think the new model is better for the warm spring and summer time. they have the grey one in stock for 189€.

old:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8303/oldlc.jpg

new:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3959/newjr.jpg

[dr.house]

I'm wondering what happens to the soles of the GT's and IR's after the threads are walked away? I've read somewhere that the threads will glue together or something like that, but I can't imagine...can anyone confirm this? Pics of old worn soles?

[denimjunkie]

I have it with my chippewas. They just break and then the glue that holds the welt with th outsole starts to let go.
Thats when its time to go to the shoemaker.

[dr.house]

You mean when all the threads are walked away they need to be resoled?

[denimjunkie]

Well, it depends I think on how worn down the sole is. they might have to be resoled or maybe just resewn.
I did a fast fix. (Reglued the sole)

[Redwinglover]

new beckman chukkas will arrive at autumn 2010
http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/redwing-beckman-chukka-boot-1.jpg

more pics: http://www.selectism.com/news/2010/01/21/bread-butter-red-wing-autumn-2010-beckman-chukka-boots/

[Opeth]

Have to get a pair of those!!!!

[GROU]

new beckman chukkas will arrive at autumn 2010
http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/redwing-beckman-chukka-boot-1.jpg

more pics: http://www.selectism.com/news/2010/01/21/bread-butter-red-wing-autumn-2010-beckman-chukka-boots/

Beautiful. I want.

[dr.house]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8319/redwinggrey15501.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/redwinggrey15501.jpg/)

Ltd. Ronnie Fieg 877's

[Greeneye]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8319/redwinggrey15501.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/redwinggrey15501.jpg/)

Ltd. Ronnie Fieg 877's
Nice colour;-)

[ThinFinn]

new beckman chukkas will arrive at autumn 2010


more pics: http://www.selectism.com/news/2010/01/21/bread-butter-red-wing-autumn-2010-beckman-chukka-boots/

i think i've posted this a while ago but nice to see them again...

[Concret]

someone knows where to find this model/color in Europe or online(not in japan tho)?

[Redwinglover]

yes you are right, but without pics :D so i haven´t seen it.

some infos for all red wing lovers, onlyredwings.co.uk has send me a voucher, maybe someone need it.

SPEEDSHIP795

This discount code entitles you to £7.95 off your purchase.
* This voucher expires 10th March 2010

its not huge, but better than nothing.

[fairylicks]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8319/redwinggrey15501.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/redwinggrey15501.jpg/)

Ltd. Ronnie Fieg 877's

I think those will look really cool to a lighter worn in jeans... 299€ isn´t that expensive...

[the punkrock]

http://mynudies.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=100&pictureid=570

Pic taken by my 2andahalf- year old son LYLE VINCENT.
Very comfy shoes...fresh from the RW- Store Frankfurt.:mrgreen:

[the punkrock]

My brandnew RW CHUKKAs:

http://mynudies.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=100&pictureid=570

Pic taken by my 2-1/2 year old son lyle vincent.
I got the shoes from the RW Store in Frankfurt, they`re very comfy & nice!

[thezeldalegend]

would anyone happen to know if there is still even the slightest chance of finding a pair of 1911's or 1909's anywhere?

[denimjunkie]

Interesting work on a pair of 9011s. Could it be cat paws?

http://hukurokuju.com/blog/IMGP7981.jpg

[ThinFinn]

^can't tell you why, but i don't these are cp's...

[Redwinglover]

would anyone happen to know if there is still even the slightest chance of finding a pair of 1911's or 1909's anywhere?

maybe here
http://www.keller-klassik.de///themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=78&source=2

[denimjunkie]

Sorry, I asked them already and these are the 9011...

[dr.house]

would anyone happen to know if there is still even the slightest chance of finding a pair of 1911's or 1909's anywhere?

Ridersroom.de got a pair that's a bit bleached out in EU42/ US9 (at least in october 09).

[thezeldalegend]

maybe here
http://www.keller-klassik.de///themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=78&source=2

darn if only i knew where this is even located id be able to find a good proxy to contact them for me. anyone care to chime in?

[denimjunkie]

Got my 9011. Havent opened the box yet. Its in the reception. What a great friday this is gonna be :-)

[Slowhand]

^ Nice! Make sure you post some fit-pics, when you get the chance..

[denimjunkie]

Im wearing them now. Perfect size (as expected). Quite hard model this one.
Not at all like the oil-tanned IR soft leathers.

They look like sex on soles, though.

[davety]

aha! i think you might be about to learn what breaking a boot in feels like for the rest of us! :lol:

[denimjunkie]

:roll::shock::-o:-D:mrgreen:

[davety]

i only say that because my chukkas just tore off the back of my ankles ;-)

[fairylicks]

Think since I walked more than 15 km in my 875, they slowly became comfortable... That´s the way it goes :-)

[davety]

yep. i'm surprised with these chukkas tho, i can literally only go 5 minutes before they tear up my heels, but besides that they're super-comfy, it's weird. i took out my insoles tonight, the extra room has made it a little easier. my 9011 took about 15 hrs solid walking to break, the 8146 took much less time but was more painful, but they're both fine now.

[Redwinglover]

Im wearing them now. Perfect size (as expected). Quite hard model this one.
Not at all like the oil-tanned IR soft leathers.

They look like sex on soles, though.

very nice boots, but very hard to break-in, good luck ;-)

[denimjunkie]

The RW oil is on its way...:oops:

[Redwinglover]

delicious, it smells like lemon, but dont drink or eat it.

[denimjunkie]

Dont worry, the only oil I eat is olive oil :-)
(Which is also supposed to be good for the leather)

[Atzec]

^it´s not. olive oil can make leather rot.

[denimjunkie]

Fact or assumption? Can you give strength to that statement, Atzec?

[Atzec]

^i´ve read about it multiple times. (i´ve read stuff about saddle care etc, to learn more about leather care in general).
general consensus was:
olive oil gets rancid over the time, esp. when it´s exposed to sunlight- that´s a fact.
so if you´ll aply it on your leather, the same will happen to the oil and in the will also cause damage to the leather and esp. the threads (most of all: it´ll stink).

IF you want to use olive oil, use it sparingly. it really softens up the leather, because it penetrates the deepest fibres of the leather, so it may cause stretching, as well.

sorry for not having a source no, but that´s what i´ve read and sounds logic to me.

[denimjunkie]

Yeah, Ive also read that it might turn rancid on you. But why does it do that? I mean animal oil like neatsfoot oil should also turn rancid, right or not?
The boot oil from RW (one of them) is also all natural...

[Atzec]

^i´m not sure, but i think it has sth to do with the unsaturated fatty acids, that are good for your health, but bad for your leather.
animal oil contains less unsaturated fatty acids, then vegetable oil.

edit:just read up on it- the unsaturated fats are more prone to oxidization, then saturated fats are. that´s why they turn rancid.

[dr.house]

Sounds to me like you guyz never used boot oil :-D You need one or two DROPS for one boot, believe me. Use a sponge and you can oil the whole boot, it's reall no problem and this quantity won't get rancid cuz' the leather drinks it all :-P.
I oil my GT's twice a year and use a regular neutral shoecream between (and the fat mink oil for the welt).

[denimjunkie]

^i´m not sure, but i think it has sth to do with the unsaturated fatty acids, that are good for your health, but bad for your leather.
animal oil contains less unsaturated fatty acids, then vegetable oil.

edit:just read up on it- the unsaturated fats are more prone to oxidization, then saturated fats are. that´s why they turn rancid.

Makes sense. Thanks!

[fairylicks]

@ house: you can´t tell me, that you only need two drops of boot oil, for oiling them. I´ve oiled my wallet and my belt and I need more than two drops cover the whole wallet...

[denimjunkie]

Two drops of half a litre :-)

[dr.house]

@ house: you can´t tell me, that you only need two drops of boot oil, for oiling them. I´ve oiled my wallet and my belt and I need more than two drops cover the whole wallet...

Use a sponge and you don't need more, believe me.